Knife Man

Fuck American Airlines

Sensing that my flight was getting bad, I kept pulling out my laptop on the plane and wrote about what was going on, minute by minute. Feel free to repost this to let folks know about how "well" they'll be treated on American Airlines.

Wow, how bad can a flight get? I get to the airport and realize my American Airlines flight leaves 20 minutes sooner than I thought. Fortunately, since I'm paranoid about being on time, I arrive early enough that it isn't too much of a problem, but a ridiculously long check-in line still means that I arrive at the gate right as they're boarding. Also, despite flying on three separate tickets (SeaTac/JFK, JFK/Dublin, Dublin/Gatwick), they are able to check my bags all the way through to Gatwick.

7:30 AM: The line itself is uneventful except for an Arab gentleman in front of me who is rather confused and not sure of what he is doing. He keeps stopping airline workers and asking questions about his flight and whether he is going to make it. A soldier in desert camo and a weathered backpack walks by the Arab, pauses, and in a loud voice announces "I don't know if I'm going to catch my flight to Iraq!" I'll leave it to you to speculate what he meant by that.

8:10 AM: Boarding at the Sea-Tac airport gets delayed by a security breach and then, to add to the fun, the captain is announcing that we are getting a brake job and will be delayed even further. I'm also listening to a flight attendant explaining, very patiently, that she'll be happy to help a gentleman if he asks politely. I can't make out what he's saying, but it sounds like he's upset that his family's seats were not adjacent. The flight attendant tells him several times that she'll help him if he's polite.

8:40 AM: the captain comes back on the overhead and announces that there was a "problem" with the brake job. They are replacing the entire wheel assembly and a further 30 minute delay is anticipated. Cell phones come out all over the plane as folks try to reschedule their flights. This is actually a good thing as the loud and annoying lady sitting next to me asks to get off the plane. She leaves along with a few other passengers.

9:45 AM: the captain has just announced that after leaving the plane to inspect the progress, he's seen that the old wheel has, in fact, been removed. The new wheel assembly, however, seems to be causing problems and the technicians can't seem to get it on the plane. We'll be delayed a bit longer.

10:00 AM: seems the technicians left a part on the old wheel which belongs on the new wheel. They're transferring it over now and the captain announces that he no longer feels comfortable guessing how much longer we'll be delayed. The ridiculously cute stewardess flight attendant tells me that I should have no problem with my connecting flight. I'm crossing my fingers now. Prayer to a non-existent deity will shortly ensue.

10:30 AM: We're still on the ground. Tempers are getting short. A child is crying and someone threw some paper that hit the guy in the seat in front of me. The flight attendant comes on the overhead to inform us that repairs are continuing but if we leave the plane to buy food and the repairs are complete, the plane will leave without them. If they have checked baggage, it will be removed from the plane.

11:05 AM: The flight was supposed to leave at 8:20 AM. The captain has announces that the wheel is on and they are finishing the paperwork and handling some refueling. We should be leaving shortly. I'm probably going to miss my flight to Dublin. And you remember the gentleman who was unhappy that his family wasn't grouped together? As I walk to the bathroom, I I hear a flight attendant telling him to "hang on, I've already given you three cups of water." The man is apparently mad that his child is thirsty and he's not very polite about it. Not surprisingly, it's his child who's doing most of the crying.

11:15 AM: The paperwork is done as is the refueling. They're trying to round up the passengers who are not on the plane. Once that's completed, we'll be taking off. I think I've been very calm about this, but I must confess that this is trying my patience.

2:45 PM (switched to New York time, it's 11:45 Pacific): It's been confirmed that I will miss my flight to Dublin, but the attendant assures me that I will be rebooked. In the meantime, we're being fed turkey sandwiches and muffins -- at five and two dollars respectively. Yes, they're really charging us for the food after making us wait for three hours. I can understand the previous delays -- that can't be helped -- but charging us for food is a damned joke. I've no intention of flying American Airlines again. Meanwhile, an attendant at the back of the plain is telling the angry man that they'll get more water for him shortly and would he please be patient.

3:07 PM: since I didn't expect the flight to last this long, I didn't bring any money with me. The lady sitting next to me offers me five dollars so I could buy a sandwich (to be honest, I asked if she had any cash). I insist she take a £10 note from me (almost $20 US). Later, I give back the five dollars when they announce that they have run out of sandwiches before they got to me. She returns my 10 pounds, but then insists I at least take $2 for a muffin. The muffin, of course, is cold, soggy and tasteless. Also, no napkin is offered. As I'm trying to pick up crumbs from the floor, it occurs to me that I'm trying to be considerate to American Airlines. I pick up the crumbs anyway.

3:30 PM: the angry man's child is now crying a duet with another child in the back of the aircraft. The man is calming the child by yelling "stop it, stop it!" over and over again.

Interlude: meanwhile, I'm reading the book We wish to inform you that tomorrow we will be killed with our families. It's about the genocide in Rwanda. This country, formerly a peaceful country that was remarkable in its stability, finally broke under a century of racial identity politics instituted by the Germans and, later, the Belgians. Armed largely by the French, the ruling Hutus decided to kill the Tutsi minority. In 100 days, over 800,000 Tutsi's were murdered, mostly by machete. In one incident, the mayor of a town encouraged the Tutsi's to seek refuge in the local Catholic church. A few days later, he came with the local militia and killed them.

Neighbors murdered neighbors. Doctors murdered their patients. Teachers murdered their students. The United States refused to help, even withholding a shipment of armored vehicles which were to be sent with troops to help stop the fighting. It seems that even though we are billions in arrears in our UN dues, we wanted 15 million for the vehicles and shipping them. We finally agreed to drop 5 million off the price, but we refused to ship them. The Clinton administration gave orders to not use the word "genocide" lest we incur our legal obligation to prevent it under UN Resolution 260A(III), the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

France, meanwhile, sent troops and set up Opération Turquoise, a "peacekeeping" mission which protected the Hutu militia and allowed their massacre of the Tutsis to continue for another month. When the Hutus finally realized that they would be punished for their crime, they fled en masse to other countries. Due in part to their practice of dumping Tutsi bodies in rivers, cholera quickly spread, killing many of the Hutu murderers. The world, in seeing this horror, responded by the largest humanitarian mission in the 20th century, airlifting food, medicine and other supplies to the Hutus 'round the clock. Me whining about missing a flight to Dublin is petty.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch it's 3:45 PM and the flight attendant is trying to get the angry man to stop blaring music in the back of the plane. Seems he has his own headphones and he cranked the music on them. I hate the angry man. I'm having bell tower/deer rifle fantasies. I know I can't say that on a flight, but is writing it a crime?

7:31 PM: I get off the plane at JFK, nine minutes before my flight to Dublin is to leave. Needless to say, I didn't make the flight. That's when my travel plans really started to go sour. I didn't write this as I went along, so the following comments aren't timestamped.

The agent at the desk told me to go to ticketing and they would rebook me.

No.

Seems my travel agent, in order to get me a great rate, booked me on three separate tickets. What I didn't realize is that this means the airlines are not responsible for anything other than their leg of the trip. The American Airlines ticket agents explained to me patiently that they weren't responsible for me missing my flight to London. After all, they explained, if I bought a jacket at one store and pants at another, do I complain about the pants at the jacket store? My response: my pants don't rip if the jacket's tailor can't sew.

I pointed out that not only did I have no idea about the problems with separate tickets, the only reason I missed the Dublin flight is because their mechanics didn't know how to change a wheel. If their mechanics had done their job correctly, I'd be on a flight to Dublin. Plus, they had already checked my baggage through to Gatwick and I had no idea where my luggage was. After a bit of consulting with one another, one of their agents printed out something which looked like a ticket to Heathrow (also in London) but was marked "Not Valid for Transportation." I was then told to take this to the next airline (Delta) on my itinerary and tell them that I need a "FIM".

Ovid: What's a FIM?
Polite American Airlines ticket agent: Don't worry, Delta knows what it is.

Fuck. Since they wouldn't tell me what FIM stood for, it meant that they didn't want to explain it. I trudged to the Delta counter, knowing I was doomed.

If you've been in JFK before, you know that you don't simply move a counter or two over to check in at a different airline. You go down some hallways, take an elevator or escalator to the "AirTrain" and then read the terrible directions with dismay. JFK is not user-friendly. Naturally, having only had a muffin to eat all day, I was exhausted and couldn't figure out the directions. I got on the wrong AirTrain (apparently, they'll all get me to the right spot, but some take considerably longer). A helpful passerby sorted me out after a couple of panicked stops and I got off the AirTrain, got on the right one, returned to where I started and kept going for another couple of stops. Then I got the Delta counter.

Polite Delta Airlines ticket agent: American Airlines said what?

"FIM" apparently stands for "Flight Interrupt Manifest" or something like that. What it means is basically this: if an airline screws up your flight, they'll fix it. Delta didn't screw up my flight but the American Airlines paperwork I had showed that American wanted Delta to book me on a flight to Heathrow. Delta was only flying me to Dublin, at which point British Airways was to fly me from Dublin to London. No, I didn't realize this was a bad idea, but again, if American's mechanics had been competent, I wouldn't be in this mess. However, realizing that part of the problem lay in the nature of my flight plans, I would be willing to give American the benefit of the doubt if they hadn't tried to foist off their problem on Delta.

The Delta agent called in a more experienced agent and he was a gift from the heavens. He told me where my bags were, he rebooked me on the same Delta flight for the next day and also rebooked the British Airways flight from Dublin to Gatwick, adding notes in the booking to explain what had happened with American Airlines. He also explained that British Airways might not honor the ticket since they have no fault in this matter. Still, getting stranded in Dublin is better than getting stranded in New York.

I went back to the American Airlines counter and this time I'm livid. The Delta agent was able to rebook my ticket, why the hell couldn't American Airlines? I tried again to get an earlier flight (they had one to London leaving soon), but they said "no". They just shrugged and said they weren't responsible. I asked how much a they would charge me for a flight to London and the cost was around $800. Finally, I had to ask them to comp me a room at a hotel, which they did without hesitation.

It's now 12:55 in New York City, but I'm so tired I can't even go to the city. Instead, I'm lying in my hotel bed, wondering if I'll get stranded in Dublin or not. Of course, the Ramada is also chaos and I actually got chewed out by one of their employees for crossing off my credit card number on my dinner tab, but that's another story.

Update: the rest of the trip was somewhat smoother.

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Along with my horrible previous experience with American, you've just confirmed they really do suck. I often cannot understand why an airline like American cannot understand customer service. Do they not want us flying with them again? Why don't they put themselves in our shoes.

I had a similar experience in the past due to "mechanical difficulties" and my flight was eventually cancelled becausethe difficulties were going to take a long time to fix and they had no other airline.

Then imagine fighting for standby spots the next day as it was the Xmas season and all the flights were booked.

I'll never fly American ever ever again.
Oh goodness. :( I really loathe AA and United, they both really suck. And they can't blame it on 9/11, as they SUCKED before then!!

Be thankful you have your luggage. JFK is notorious for losing luggage. :/

May the rest of your transit go smoothly.
I had a really shitty AA flight experience too.

I was on my way back from Buenos Aires to Dallas, a 10 hour flight. There was maybe a third of the plane full. My little cool air vent thing was busted. I wanted to move seats to the one next to me, but when I moved and the lady did headcount, I got bitched at, and told to return to my seat - y'know, the one to my right.

There was nobody in my freakin' row, but I had to move back to the broken vent, and I couldn't get the other one to move towards me. I was threatened with a visit by an air marshall if I didn't stay in my assigned seat.

What a pain in the ass. I flew the whole flight melting to death.
You should have called her bluff.

Air marshalls are supposed to be incognito...
Imagine, if all a group of hijackers would need to do to flush them out is to move to another seat?

Either that, or faked a serious illness...
Also had bad experience with American
(Anonymous)
The first time I flew American Airlines (actually the very first time I ever flew), I had a bad experience as well. Apparently they were running behind on shipping their customers' baggage, so they put other people's bags aboard my plane, while my bag never left SeaTac. They were nice enough to forward my suitcase to my hotel once it arrived, but I was still unimpressed enough with that kind of behavior that I've never flown them again.

(The MD-80's they shipped me around in had an annoying/worrying tendency to shimmy about the yaw axis in turbulence, too. Not very nice on the whole.)

On a more positive note, I've flown Southwest a dozen times or so since then, and I've always been pleased with their service. That's not exactly helpful if you're flying outside the US, though.
what a bloody nightmare :0(
How come you didn't fly straight to Gatwick from JFK?
Damn that is horrible!! I've only had one missed flight due to airline troubles and they treated me like I was royalty when it happened. That was United, which is pretty much the only airline I have any recent experience with. When I was kid I would fly Delta and they were supernice to me but that was in the late 70's.
(Anonymous)
Blame your travel agent. Maybe you saved a little bit, but look at the cost. Blame yourself for even using a travel agent for what you could have done for yourself online. Blame yourself for being unprepared and without enough money or your own lunch. It's up to you to take care of yourself no matter what happens.

Mechnical delays happen with every airline, so you aren't going to escape that. You really can't blame American for not helping you more. They got you to where you paid them to take you. By trying to game the system to save a couple of dollars, you limited the airlines ability to help you.

The reason you missed your flight, however, is that you didn't check in for your flight to Dublin, and Delta had no reason to think you were showing up. If you had been flying on the same ticket, most likely the airline would have held your flight and you'd be on your way to Dublin, just a little later.
First off, how the hell should I know that my travel agent shouldn't book stuff like that? I trust my travel agent to tell me the pros and cons of a particular trip. Further, it's not like I knew that this disconnected tickets were a problem. I'm a programmer, not a travel agent.

Second, I wasn't "unprepared and without enough money". I have plenty of cash, but that wasn't the point.

Third, I'm blaming the airline for mechanical delays. I'm blaming the airline for having mechanics who, as our pilot explained, disassembled a wheel incorrectly. That doesn't inspire confidence. I'm also blaming the airline for trying to foist me off on Delta. Had they merely rebooked me like Delta did, this post wouldn't have happened.

Mechanical problems aren't the issue here. Incompetence and poor customer service are.
That is so odd. I've enjoyed each of my AA flights. Honestly, when I have a choice I choose AA.
A similar thing happened to me
(Anonymous)
Only it was United. In my case, they refused to comp a room even after I asked. After the completion of my trip - after I had cooled down a bit, I decided to give every person I had problems with the benefit of the doubt.

My reasoning was that while the accumulative experience was a nightmare, each individual incident might not have been perceived to be that bad by the person I dealt with at that moment in time. I figured once I explained the whole ordeal to someone higher in the company that they would take care of the matter.

Nope. I have come to the realization that such a company doesn't care if they lose one or two customers because there are enough people unwilling to fight for customer service to keep them afloat. It actually is not in their best interest to give you what you deserve because if they did so for you - they would have to do what is right for everyone - and that would hurt their bottom line.

You might get your individual situation corrected by pursuing a reversal of credit card charges as suggested on your use.perl journal.

I would recommend a different course of action. Contact someone from AA that is higher up on the food chain and tell them that you are just one of many people affected by their total lack of customer service. Your intention to no longer be a customer is just the tip of the iceberg. Your plan is to start a WhyIhateAA.com web site where people can blog about their terrible experiences. Inform them of the audience you can reach given your current position. Then, go through with it.

I would have if I had thought of it while I was still steaming.

Cheers,
Me
Honestly, this is why I do my own booking, and make sure that if I have a layover, it's several hours long. You can't trust a flight to be on time, period. And you can't trust that airlines will care about you - why else would they be in bankruptcy 75% of the time? >.
Curtis,
It was lovely meeting you last weekend. The best of luck in the UK.

-Delilah in Boston
Hi there! It was great meeting you, too. I wish things weren't so hectic so I could have gotten to get to know you better, but I was glad to finally find out why pdx42 and _sister_madly_ say you and Matt are such great people.
Oh sweetie.. I am so sorry that you had such a bad experience. Especially because you could have had more time with Sean and Lil. Oh well- It just means you have all the ickiness done with now and can enjoy your time in the UK. Perhaps you will meet a lovely lady on your flight. who knows.

On a side note. Thanks for mentioning that book. I am going to have to check it out. I have decided that I want to go to Rwanda or Darfur and work in the orpanage type places. I'm not sure how the details will work out yet but hopefully I will figure that out this summer.
I work for a global health institution and we're doing some projects in Rwanda now - a friend (co-worker) wrote me from a recent trip that Rwanda is a very beautiful country. I would be VERY careful about working outside of the capital of Kigali, though, because of increased kidnappings of foreigners in the Rwandan countryside (note that Congo is on its western border). There are no end of opportunities to help out. Babies in orphanages really need to be held and loved every day (for good mental health development) and with so many pressing needs it too often just doesn't happen. :-( So that would be a great job!
My fingers are crossed for the rest of your journey to go okay! I'm sorry you had to "fly the angry skies" with AA. I'm so paranoid about airplanes, I wouldn't have stayed just because of the thought "the mechanics can't figure out how to put on a wheel?" or "if the wheel has a problem, what other stuff is possibly falling off the plane?"

At least AA doesn't (or hasn't been caught) use duct tape to hold parts of the wings together for over thousands of hours of flight (a la United).
My recent AA debacle
I had a recent AA bad experience, too.

I was returning to DC from Albuquerque with a change-over in Dallas. Our flight from ABQ was delayed due to mechanical problems -- a faulty door sensor indicating the rear hatch was open when, in fact, it was shut. It was unable to be repaired, so there was again some mysterious paperwork that had to be hashed out. We left an hour late.

The pilot did try to make up the lost time, but was doubly confounded by stupidity at Dallas-Ft. Worth. Even though he stated we were late to the control tower, we were put on gate hold for "ten minutes". (Which corresponded to 45 minutes in reality.) THEN once we FINALLY got to a gate there were no gate agents. No one was answering the frantic pleas from the pilot. After AN HOUR we finally had agents materialize at the gate. We all glumly deplaned knowing that we had missed our connecting flights, some by scant minutes.

At least there was no question of staying in a hotel, which was admittedly nice, but I would have rather been home.
They changed M's flight and calle dhis phone at 4 am in the morning to tell us it was changed a half an hour early - nice message, huh? I can't stand them...
That actually happened both directions too so it must be a custom with them to make flights leave earlier and warn you about two hours prior.

Best of luck Curtis! I hope things look up from here!
Holy craptastic, Batman. This + the "security" is why I really really don't like to fly now. I come visit you, I'm takin' a dern boat.

Here's hoping the remainder of your trip is smoooooth.
oh man! you couldn't make UP such a screwed up story if you tried!

sorry to hear it, it's gotta go uphill, no?

xoxo
Similar thing happened to me...
(Anonymous)
Jeez, I can't imagine having such bad luck flying... well, maybe.
I flew Siberian Air back from Irkutsk to Chicago, connecting through Moscow, then Frankfurt. At Moscow, we waited on the runway an hour - I was later told this is commonly done because someone wealthy and important pays the airlines a bit to hold for them while they scoot across town to catch their flight (I understand the desire - Moscow is a traveller's hell, designed by the omnipotent transportaion bureau of the Surpreme Soviet).

So we arrive at Frankfurt with JUST enough time to catch our flight - but then customs. No problem for me, but I was at the back of the plane and have a crowd of Russians ahead of me. Each and every one, the German guard was giving a rough time - "let's see your visa - how much money are you carrying? Show me!" I'm a little nervous, but when I come up he's friendly as can be, and wishes me luck to catch my flight - I have about 5 minutes.

Needless to say, when I get to the check in, the plane is gone. And, of course, since Siberian Air flew me in, they tell me to talk to them. Unfortunately, they booked it and were gone before we ever cleared immigration! So I need to beg British Air to help me, which, mercifully, they do. I'm rescheduled and the final leg of my journey is set. I do have to pop for a hotel - which, after brown water in the classy Irkutsk Inturist Hotel, is paradise. But on the whole, things went well, and aside from the initial panick, things went pretty well.

Robert Nanders
http://www.dubaitravels.com
It's the way of intercontintal moves!
When I came to California for my first interview/job in 1999 it took 24+ hours (no hotels on the way at least) after a couple of missed flights. Although at least for me the airline people were polite the whole way...

When I arrived in LAX and went to the counter to get checked in for my last brief flight the United person stared at my ticket for a while before saying "Woah, you are really late!" and getting me some change so I could call and tell I was still on my way...

Glad to read forward that you in the end made it safely to London!

- ask
You should post this to..
(Anonymous)
http://www.consumerist.com/